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E Vile
Fifth Exiled Legion
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.11 15:17:00 -
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Speaking dps
Can I get someone to post numbers to compair.
1. max skills with 2 dmg mods in lows (bcu, mag stab ex..)
2. no dmg mods other then skills.
To me the nighthawk is way lower then the others when it comes to dps.
Would be nice to have a 7th launcher to bring it up to par with the others.
Don't tell me the nighthawks tank is better and thats the reason because you can dedicate all meds and lows in the others and tank just as well. I've seen all commands tank like madmen.
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E Vile
Fifth Exiled Legion
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.12 16:41:00 -
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Speaking dps
Can I get someone to post numbers to compair.
1. max skills with 2 dmg mods in lows (bcu, mag stab ex..)
2. no dmg mods other then skills.
To me the nighthawk is way lower then the others when it comes to dps.
Would be nice to have a 7th launcher to bring it up to par with the others.
Don't tell me the nighthawks tank is better and thats the reason because you can dedicate all meds and lows in the others and tank just as well. I've seen all commands tank like madmen.
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E Vile
Fifth Exiled Legion
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: E Vile on 12/12/2007 21:20:34
 Originally by: Derek Sigres
I would say there have been many valid arguments posted by people with better experience than me on the subject.
However, I'd lean towards the NH in terms of it's role. It has already been pointed out that the NH is virtually immune to cap and ewar if fitted with passive tank and it is generally one of the last things targeted thanks to it's relatively low direct threat profile (i.e. removing one from the fleet does not directly decrease fleet damage much for the time expended doing so). This leave the NH free to offer up the one thing command ships are supposed to do - Link Warfare. All of the command ships are awesome, and some do the non support roles better than others. The NH however excells in anti-drone work and living long enough for it's link warfare mods to give your fleet that edge long enough to pull your bacon outta the fire.
No the Nighthawk sucks for war links. It's got a big lack of powergrid. The Vulture is what you want to fill that role. 3 links. Lots of grid. Even better tank. The vulture is horrid on DPS but it fills the fleet support war link role as well or better then any ship in it's class.
Thanks for the numbers responses, as it shows to me even more the nighthawk is out of line. As for passive being the arguement. Believe it or not you can passive tank a sleipnir very well also (projectiles also use no cap).
To have any decent passive tank that compairs to the other commands tanks you need to run all Med and low slots for tank. No scram/web/mwd No BCU. I feel the nighthawk at least needs a 7th launcher slot to bring it closer to the dps of the others.
Nighthawk is a FIELD command JUST LIKE the Abso/astart/sleip. It is supposed to fill the same role as these, and does so poorly other then being a ship less likely to be called primary.
By the way, people say they hate the fact Amarr does only em, it also sucks having the nighthawks dmg bonus only for kinetic. Why do Khanid Amarr ships get missle bonus for all types when the missle specialists Caldari are less effective?
WTF? Lowest dps AND only 1 type dmg or you go even Lower into pathetic dps numbers for a field command ship.
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